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Episode 056: Leading Yourself and Loving Your Neighbor with Dr. Derwin & Vicki Gray

In this powerful episode, Justin & Trish sit down with Dr. Derwin and Vicki Gray—authors, pastors, and founders of Transformation Church—for a deep and honest conversation about emotional health, marriage, leadership, and multiethnic ministry. The Grays share wisdom from three decades of marriage and ministry, reflecting on how leading yourself well flows from your identity in Christ.